Reason I don’t like most Digital Evidence

glad to know it isn't just me. I know that to have a show you have to have an audience...I see more drama build up and less evidence that impresses me

yes I remember that episode also I didn't watch it, it was good in the very beginning but now when they get actors and reality people it just sucks, they seem to want more people to watch or something they went movie star hunters, hehe, that is just my opinion, and Ghost Adventures is heading that way, I don't know why a ghost team if there gonna be on tv just have them and not actors that is what just turns me off and think they don't even take there job serious anymore. oh well, if the Haunted Collector comes back on I hope he don't go with actors cause I really liked that show as well:) to my knowledge I never seen a real ghost hunt team go on a book signing deal maybe I missed one..that is who I would want instead of the ones on tv. that's just me I guess.

HAHAHA!! I love the episodes with "Special guests", they always introduce them as "Our good friend . . . ". Yeah, like you've ever met them before,

"And this is our extra special super duper friend! The Real Housewives of washed up WWE Wrestlers who make special guest appearances on paranormal shows!"

Wes_Forsythe wrote:

Steven Matrix wrote: Like a friend of mine said a few weeks ago; she stopped watching GH when they had on the women from that reality show; what was it? The housewives of New Jersey or something to that effect. I didn't watch it when she did; but it tells me all I need to know about what's important to them.

I STILL point to that episode as the most unwatchable piece of fluff they have ever produced...lol.

Lol, I'm with ya.

And yes Amanda, it does come across as stagy. When I first started watching it, I did see some good points to learn from.

Now, I think we all can have the opportunity to learn ourselves through trial and error; not to mention the fact that there's a lot of good folks on this site who will help.

You know I was wondering if it waas just me but the gh show seems to be real stagy in a way I never saw it before.

Steven Matrix wrote: Like a friend of mine said a few weeks ago; she stopped watching GH when they had on the women from that reality show; what was it? The housewives of New Jersey or something to that effect. I didn't watch it when she did; but it tells me all I need to know about what's important to them.

I STILL point to that episode as the most unwatchable piece of fluff they have ever produced...lol.

Wes_Forsythe wrote: Lest one of my detractors (they are out there) quotes me from here and then finds a post elsewhere where I talk about being a fan of the shows let me expand on my criticism.

I am a fan of the shows (to varying degrees of course). Each has good and bad points. Ghost Hunters presents an organized and methodical approach to investigations. Ghost Adventures gain points in my book because they are willing to try any and every new piece of equipment to see if it gets results. However, both are guilty of stating theory and interpretation as accepted fact. I think both have presented evidence that was questionable at best (possibly even faked I accept).

So I will NEVER tell anyone not to watch the shows. Even the biggest fan has to know (because the stars will tell you) that the process of editing hours of investigation time into a watchable entertainment format is a matter of taste, interpretation, and opinion.

Well said. For me, I get most of what not to do from these shows. Yes, you can look at GH and the hundreds of investigations [not crazy about that word, but will use here] they've done compared to the rest of us. Why do I not believe that they're the best or better than many? They come across as paranormal drama queens who make money at creating drama. They are organized, but it is organized drama. From an old school, spiritual way of looking at things, they actually show their lack of understanding of the other side.

These types of shows get the young people stoked and they copy what they see by getting similar equipment and looking for "haunted places"; which in most cases, the word "haunted" isn't even the appropriate word; just adds to the drama of the chase.

Like a friend of mine said a few weeks ago; she stopped watching GH when they had on the women from that reality show; what was it? The housewives of New Jersey or something to that effect. I didn't watch it when she did; but it tells me all I need to know about what's important to them.

I DO love watching all the shows! I think anything that brings attention to the field is a good thing.

But I also spend a lot of time explaining what is wrong with the shows to potential clients and what they should really expect from an investigation

Lest one of my detractors (they are out there) quotes me from here and then finds a post elsewhere where I talk about being a fan of the shows let me expand on my criticism.

I am a fan of the shows (to varying degrees of course). Each has good and bad points. Ghost Hunters presents an organized and methodical approach to investigations. Ghost Adventures gain points in my book because they are willing to try any and every new piece of equipment to see if it gets results. However, both are guilty of stating theory and interpretation as accepted fact. I think both have presented evidence that was questionable at best (possibly even faked I accept).

So I will NEVER tell anyone not to watch the shows. Even the biggest fan has to know (because the stars will tell you) that the process of editing hours of investigation time into a watchable entertainment format is a matter of taste, interpretation, and opinion.

I do wish they would spend more time explaining (cause I think they know) the weaknesses of different equipment. Flir, full spectrum, EMF, digital IR cams...all these devices have their flaws and limits and produce false positives that look really cool on TV but need to be pointed out. People just need to realize that the shows are entertainment and do the research and THINK a little about what they are seeing and hearing.[/quote]

You know..that'd make a good podcast....